Join us for a conversation with David Masland, Director of New Faith Communities for the Upper New York Conference, as he shares about creating space for spiritual pioneers within stressed institutions. Hear him share about the discipline of dying and waiting for institutions wanting to do new things, the adventurous hope of the church planters he works with, how to deal with the “institutional monster that always wants to be fed”, and the mistakes he’s made and what he’s continuing to learn.

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